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The Geo-Political War Against Veterans

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Updated: October 8, 2013

 

By Kerry Patton

We all heard about the World War II Veterans “storming” through barricades recently in DC. While “storming” may be a questionable term used solely for headlines, surely a storm is brewing and our veterans are in the mix of it all.

Politicians are playing with the lives of veterans every single day and frankly, it’s getting out of control.

While it’s difficult to decipher fact from fiction these days, considering how convoluted media has become, some things remain nonetheless concerning for those who served.

Last Saturday, a US Army Ranger platoon operating in Southern Afghanistan was out on a night mission. During the operation, they encountered command detonated improvised explosive devices and suicide vest wearing insurgents. According to SOFREP.com, at least two Rangers were killed along with two other support personnel. This was a mass casualty atrocity considering about half of the platoon was injured—many remain in intensive care battling serious life threatening injuries.

If you believe the recent mass-cas in Afghanistan was bad, wait till you hear how the federal government is handling the matter. According to NBC, “The families of five U.S. service members who were killed over the weekend in Afghanistan have been notified that they won’t be receiving the $100,000 benefit normally wired to relatives within 36 hours of the death.”

Why won’t these families obtain what is rightly owed to them in the timeliness outlined according to DoD policy?

Political douchsticks decided to play a game. It’s an incredibly austere game which not only threatens the livelihoods of those wearing the uniform past and present, but also one which places family members in unnecessary hardships.

There is a geo-political war against veterans and their families right now.

We are the 9% who at one time decided to sacrifice everything for this nation. We are the select few who voluntarily placed not only our own lives, but our families’ lives, on hold ensuring we would protect against all enemies foreign and domestic.

We did part of our job. We protected against foreign enemies. But did we do the other part which protects us against those of domestic origin?

When you threaten the brotherhood of veterans and their family livelihoods, I for one will not stand idly by.  As we have proven time and time again, when united, Veterans can not and will not be ignored.

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  1. Parafrog1

    October 8, 2013 at 10:42 am

    What is the reason the liars gave for this blatant disrespect they are showing now? Unfreaking believeable how those high and mighty scumbags treat us americans every day.

  2. Ksac

    October 8, 2013 at 10:45 am

    Please elaborate on the political douchsticks previously mentioned.

    Who’s making these decisions?

    • joe

      October 8, 2013 at 11:09 pm

      Dear Ksac,

      I shall elaborate. A funding bill presently sits tabled in the senate by a woman named Harry Reid. She will not allow the bill to be put up for a vote.

      Respecting the executive branch (headed by a woman named Barry Soetoro… er… Barack Obama… er…um… something like that) decision to withhold active duty military benefits, both houses of congress passed a bill–which was signed by the head of that executive branch–to fund those benefits during the pretend shutdown. You can read about how all of that works here:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentment_Clause

      and here:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_Our_Military_Act

      Wikipedia isn’t a great source, but I think it’s adequate for this purpose. Any other questions?

      • John

        October 9, 2013 at 7:32 am

        Your analysis is correct!

      • Dana King

        October 9, 2013 at 10:50 am

        It’s just so damn weird that facts cloud everything. People will make up and believe the most wildest of excuses to push blame. This is not the case and you nailed it!

      • barbs

        October 9, 2013 at 11:45 am

        Harriet*

      • Nick

        October 9, 2013 at 11:52 am

        You hit the nail on the head. Art. I, Sec. 7 of the US Constitution is rather clear on how bills to fund the federal government are generated. The breakdown has nothing to do with the inability of the House to pass legislation, but has more to do with the Senate abdicating its constitutional responsibility to debate and amend bills. In other words, I have a vision of James Madison face palm.

    • Joe

      October 8, 2013 at 11:27 pm

      Respecting the funding bill that presently sits tabled in the Senate, a woman named Harry Reid (bitch is BUTCH, by the way).

      Respecting the calculated political decision to not pay active duty military benefits–the funding for which was approved by both houses of congress and signed by the president last week–a woman named Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama, I can’t remember which name is legally correct (she’s a little prettier than Ms. Reid…. Ethnic-looking too, if you’re into that).

    • RW

      October 9, 2013 at 10:25 am

      The tone if not the detailed orders come from the very top. Some say we are leaderless but the fact is we have a national leader who is working against God fearing patriotic Americans. he is replacing agency leadership with yes men and we are starting to how these people will be turning our nation in to a police state. We each have to ask ourselves if we are willing to trade our freedom for a false federal security? We must forget our federal government, it has become an out of control entity of growth and self preservation. We must instead concentrate on pressuring our State legislators to call for a states convention for the purpose of repairing and restoring our US constitution. We need 2/3 of the states on board. Contact your states representatives today, start a petition drive today and spread it among all you know.

  3. Shiftee

    October 8, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Barack Obama’s net worth is somewhere between 1.8 and 6 million. I hate to hold any commander to a personal standard but, if it were me in office, these families would never even see that notification. This is simply unbelievable.

  4. Jessie F

    October 8, 2013 at 11:03 am

    I’m in Afghanistan, but you folks tell me where to put my name on any petition, or any action I can take to help, and I will do anything I can. I’m passing this article along to every vet I know. We MUST stop this bullshit in its tracks. This administration is using our Gold-star families, our elderly vets, and anyone else they can as leverage, and it has to stop.

  5. Sumwon

    October 8, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Does anyone have any info to get in contact with a group that can contact and support these families? I’d like to help them if I can.

  6. Lina Jacobson

    October 8, 2013 at 11:14 am

    I’m almost incoherent with disgust. Last week when they barricaded the WWII memorial, I was choked up, my father served in the Army on Guadacanal. Yes he is still alive at 91, drives and is sharper than the politicians that hold this country hostage in an attempt to further their agenda. This withholding of death benefits is pushing the bar into an area that they are expecting Americans to be asleep and not notice the atrocity.MF’s. Guess again. Thank you for being the voice in the chaos. Since the title of your post is “..Geo-Political,”I personally feel the “Tea Party” are the only ones in the political arena willing to speak up and not toe the old party line. The propaganda machines are working overtime to demonize and pretend they are the fringe of the right. Both left and right are trying scare tactics that Repubs could lose the House in 2014 if they don’t compromise on the debt and the shutdown. LOL! It’s a rhetorical question to ask veterans and active service members “when do we stand on principle” and not cave to the advancement of a ideologue that is anti-American? God hear our prayers and send blessings to the families of the fallen.

  7. Shiftee

    October 8, 2013 at 11:14 am

    Has any organization put together a fund/donation for the families? If RU wants to get behind something I’ve got your first donation right here. If the government won’t do their job, nothing says we can’t do it for them.

  8. Jon Burns

    October 8, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Republican controlled house has created 26 bills to fund the government besides disastrous Obama care. All have died in the Democratic Senate. This is Obama and the democrats

    • Chris H

      October 8, 2013 at 1:37 pm

      The Affordable Health Act has absolutely nothing to due with the current budget. It’s already in effect and fully paid for through taxes on cigarettes, liquor, and tanning booths that started three years ago. Regardless of whether they passed a budget or not, there would still be Obamacare. However Republican extremists think this is a perfect opportunity to defund it by holding the country hostage. It’s like Ohio State beating Michigan by 100 points and then Michigan saying they’ll hold the team at gunpoint until they “compromise” by giving Michigan 101 points. How its affecting my fellow vets is atrocious, but get your facts straight. Screwing over the people’s chance at affordable health care in a country with THE WORST health care costs and quality among first world countries by holding the country hostage is despicable.

      • Rita Crow

        October 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm

        Not so, sir. I am paying almost triple what I paid for my insurance 3years ago, so, sir, I am paying for mine and several other people’s. Add to that that my benefits have been lowered, and this is a shady deal for someone who barely reaches middle class status! Plus, I do NOT have any subsidies to help pay for it. Every time I hear some one speak on favor of it on TV, I get a tick from swallowing the anger I feel at their out and out lies!

      • robert ostrander

        October 8, 2013 at 9:48 pm

        Chris H. Excellent summary of what is going on. Thank you..

      • hockeymom

        October 8, 2013 at 11:21 pm

        Question, “Chris H” – How do you justify your MAN exempting himself, the VP and his Cabinet from his beloved, oh-so-wonderful OBAMAcare??? Did you even know that?! What an absolute hypocrite.

      • Concerned American

        October 9, 2013 at 6:08 am

        Actually Chris, you couldn’t be more wrong. President Obama has spent or added 5.7 trillion to the national debt over and above normal Government spending Soc. Sec, etc… raising it to 16.8 trillion dollars, since he came into office 5 years ago. 1.2 trillion of that cleaning up the Iraq war and finishing the tax breaks President Bush had started. 4.5 trillion has been spent on Obamacare and getting the whole new healthcare plan started. This does not include the 2.8 trillion he has requested for the next fiscal year to continue Obamacare. Obama’s chief economic advisor has already admitted that they will be 1.1 trillion in the whole before that fiscal year even starts. As of Jan. 1st 2014, the 2 most expensive parts of Obamacare will go into effect, that being long term care for people who are ill with things like cancer and diabeties and 100% of all surgeries will be paid for. As of 2012, over half(160 million) of all America is over 50 years old. So lets say conservatively that 100 million of them will get ill or need surgery or need long term care. An average cost of a deep surgery or what most cancer surgeries are considered cost $200,000 dollars, times that by say 50 million Americans, you are talking trillions upon trillions of dollars added to our national debt. The Republicans are not holding the county hostage, they are looking at a much bigger picture. A bad as it would be if America defaulted on its loans from a budget shutdown, it would be disasterous for the U.S. and the world if we could not pay the interest on our national debt due to the massive cost of Obamacare and the U.S. dollar was no longer used as the world’s monetary reserve currency. Countries like Greece, Spain, Italy and Ireland who have gone broke once or more were using the same 20pt system Obamacare is going to use and are just smaller models of the U.S.. If you don’t believe the facts I have written, they are all able to be check, I challenge you to look them up before you reply.My final point, it has everything to do with the current budget. tc all be safe

      • mamawearscombatboots

        October 9, 2013 at 9:22 am

        Democrats: Buy our product or we will fine you! Republicans: Can we maybe delay doing that for 12 months? Democrats: No, that’s extortion

  9. dnice

    October 8, 2013 at 11:22 am

    This is some major manure. I feel like not too many people give a crap either about Vets being used as pawns. The US is failing in regards to what made this country great: “A nation reveals itself not only by the men it produces but also by the men it honors, the men it remembers.” (John F. Kennedy III)

  10. Sheila

    October 8, 2013 at 11:48 am

    The Ranger Association, TSAF, and 2nd HOOAH GA are a few that are trying to help and so many more. I would start with the 3rd Ranger BN and see what they say. I am a Gold Star Mother who is very upset over his. I lost my Son in 2010 to Combat. We would not have been able to fulfill Jimmy’s wishes if it had not been through the help of the Death gratuity we would not have been able to attend his Funeral. God Bless. You can message me on FB. Sheila Ryder Patton. Thank you

  11. JeremyMazz

    October 8, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Nobody will ever understand the sacrifices combat veterans make….ever. We ask for nothing other than the government to hold up to their word and contractual agreements regarding benefits, retirement, and in those sad instances our death benefits. To not give those family members the help they need during a very hard time in their life makes me sick to my stomach. Some of these men were still teenagers!! If our own people won’t look out for us then who will??

  12. Thomas J. Lynn Sr.

    October 8, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    You Govt. officials sent those men to war, now hold up your end of the deal. You chickenshit asses are paper patriots at best. No American Veteran should tolerate our brothers and sister being treated in this manner!

  13. Me

    October 8, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    We are all so quick to say Republican or Democrate and point a finger! This is not their faults, its the faults of lazy Americans who stand by and let these things continue to happen. When will we as Americans wake up and understand that this clowns parading in the Capital are not for the American people, they are for themselves and there agendas. So stop pointing fingers and look in the mirror, they can only do what we allow them to do.

    Condolences to the family of MY FALLEN BROTHERS!!

  14. mmm

    October 8, 2013 at 1:38 pm

    Sen. Shatz is answering his own phone.

  15. Kevin Childers

    October 8, 2013 at 1:41 pm

    WTF? GI insurance is from a private source and not funded by the federal budget. And, if I am not mistaken, is paid as a group policy through a small deduction from the soldiers pay. So where does the federal budget come into this?

    http://militarypay.defense.gov/benefits/SGLI.html

    • Jeannie

      October 8, 2013 at 9:40 pm

      SGLI benefits and the 100K death benefit are two different animals that each serve a seperate purpose. Get your shit straight and come back later!

  16. Terri Simandl

    October 8, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    It is disgusting!!! We can send weapons to foreign countries to later be used against us and cant give OUR BRAVE SOLDIERS EVERY DAM THING THEY NEED ASAP!!! Makes me sick. They are pushing their political agenda and its not for any of us! Thank you Lord for all of you!!!!

  17. Billy Bacon

    October 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    *Slightly cracks neck from side to side*

    Regulators… Mount up.

    Gold Star Mothers, I can’t even begin to describe the gratitude I feel towards you and yours for the sacrifices you have given.

    “The nation which forgets its defenders will be itself forgotten.” ~Calvin Coolidge

    To the fallen… ‘Til Valhalla.

  18. spc tabatha rosas

    October 8, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    Of course the government doesnt want to pay those who rightly deserve it during this government shutdown….because if they did how would they pay for obamas golf games and michelles vacations and staff of personal servants. I love defending my country as a service member but it makes me sick to fight for the sleeze we serve under right now. I for one would love to have the time and money to march on washington and put a stop to all this. Unfortunately soldiers dont make enough to get by as it is….i think they should shut down all government pay starting with the president and his cronies until those who are deserving get whats theres and the shut down is over

    • Gunship Load

      October 9, 2013 at 11:48 am

      I disagree completely…

      While there is no “civilain” counterpart to judge what we get paid against, we make plently in each paygrade to “get by”.

      Perhaps you are living beyond your means, just like those in Washington D.C.

    • Revencher

      October 10, 2013 at 2:39 pm

      It was the Update Republicans house that wanted the shutdown and even bragged about it, not the senate or the president.The government has always and will always neglect it veterans. Hell bush Jr started the wars and then cut the VA’s budget.

  19. Dom

    October 8, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    I served 3 combat tours active duty as a Cavalry Scout(19D) in the US ARMY two in Iraq, 1 afghan, the only leaders I’ve ever know to exist in our country were the guys on my left and right.

  20. Revencher

    October 8, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    “Jon Burns

    October 8, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Republican controlled house has created 26 bills to fund the government besides disastrous Obama care. All have died in the Democratic Senate. This is Obama and the democrats”

    The health care act was voted on in the last presidential election and was decided when Obama won a 2nd term. It is now a LAW and you can not refuse to sign a budget because you don’t like one of the laws of our country.

    Although what I am going through is nothing compared to what the families and soldiers are going through. As a OEF disabled vet I can say it’s only going to get worse. Not only can I not get the VA to treat my injures. Even though the doctors they sent me to stated if I don’t get a operation on my arms I will louse control of my hands and to top it off funding for Voc-Rehab has been suspended so I can no longer go to school to try and get a job I can do with my injures. On top of that not that I cant afford school my student loans will be called in and I will not be able to pay them.

    • Joe

      October 8, 2013 at 11:13 pm

      “The health care act was voted on in the last presidential election and was decided when Obama won a 2nd term. It is now a LAW and you can not refuse to sign a budget because you don’t like one of the laws of our country.”

      This is utterly and demonstrably false. That is all.

      Wait. You probably shouldn’t speak if you are a dumb. Okay, now that is all.

      • Revencher

        October 9, 2013 at 6:53 pm

        Obama ran on a healthcare ticket and was re-elected on that ticket, so heath care was voted on and won the vote of the people. The Republicans have refused to accept a budget that does not include canceling the health care act which is a law that the Republican have tried to repeal over 40 times and each time failed. It is a law get over it. Also calling people names doesn’t prove a point. If you can prove me wrong do so. But you cant because all you can do is quote Republican propaganda which is nothing less then lies.

  21. Steven

    October 8, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    Remember this come 2014 and 2016.

  22. Charlie N

    October 8, 2013 at 6:41 pm

    May their eyeballs grow hair and their teeth blue fungus. The House passed a bill last week to pay all military. It was even signed by the current resident. This is total BS. Just one more way for the self appointed nobility to punish the commoners.

    • Joe

      October 8, 2013 at 11:21 pm

      That Chicago Machine will eat you alive, bro. It feels nothing but an unquenchable thirst for power and control. It kind of reminds me of that cloud thing from Lost.

  23. Sue

    October 8, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    This is repulsive! As the mom and wife of combat veterans this breaks my heart to the core.

    If y’all haven’t already check out this group

    http://www.oatkeepers.org

  24. Sue

    October 8, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    This is repulsive. As the wife and mother of combat veterans I know all too well how much this admin hates military and veterans. This one is over the top, however.

    If y’all haven’t already check out this site

    http://www.oathkeepers.org

  25. Bryan

    October 8, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    This is not geo-politics. This is just politics…albeit bad ones. Geo-politics has to do with international relations, not domestic.

  26. Mac

    October 8, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Dear Congressman,

    Good Morning. While recently checking my email, I received a fairly disturbing news article from a friend of mine whom I was a Soldier with in Afghanistan twice. This news article was informing me that due to the recent shutdown of the government there are currently 19 military families that you guys have refused to provide death benefits to and refused to allow them to be buried in a veteran’s cemetery as per the normal standing agreement made between a soldier and the US government. This was brought to everyone’s attention when we lost 3 of our highly skilled brothers and dedicated sister in an assault on Monday. 2 Rangers, a CID Agent and a medical Officer all lost their lives.
    I am not sure if you are aware of what these death benefits are used for so I wanted to make sure you were well informed, since last I looked only 12 members of congress have ever served their country in the military.
    This money is used to help the families pay for the funeral costs to bury their fallen service member. It helps get them to Dover Air Force Base so that they can be there when their fallen family member arrives back into the US for their unfortunate reception back to their home country. It is used to help pay for hotels, car rentals and other expenses that may be necessary for the family to do what is needed during this horrible time in their lives. This is all promised to the families to be given to them within 36 hours of the announcement of the death of a family member.
    Imagine the family member (usually referred to as a Gold Star Family) getting a knock on their door with the Chaplain and NCO or Officer informing them of the death of their service member who served their country with honor and sacrificed their life. That is a gut wrenching moment for the family member and the casualty assistance team members. Now imagine those same people having to come back and tell the family. “I am so sorry but your Congress hasn’t approved for the money they promised you to bury your family member.”
    So while you and your compatriots are agreeing to send Egypt millions of dollars to support them, allowing illegal immigrants to protest on a national park while denying access to veterans and making sure that all federal employees get paid while they sit at their house doing absolutely nothing. Can we please pay the people who actually deserve their money? I am absolutely certain that you will move forward to get these families their benefits as I will be sending the local news agencies, every veterans organization, facebook page and news media a copy of my sent email and any response received from your office. I await your response.

    Sincerely,
    Mac
    SSG, US Army Retired
    Registered Voter

  27. Kath

    October 8, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    Check out the latest post on the Fisher House Foundation Facebook page:

    https://www.facebook.com/FisherHouse?ref=stream&hc_location=stream

    They’re offering to advance the families the money, they’re helping with some free airline tickets and free lodging at either the Dover Fisher House or local hotels, according to the article on a CNN blog:

    http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/08/as-shutdown-continues-charity-group-fisher-house-offers-to-pick-up-slack-for-death-benefits-for-fallen-troops-families/

  28. Joe Schmo

    October 8, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    I’m just going to go ahead and leave this here. I don’t know about the rest of you, but the values espoused here are why I enlisted:

    http://www.lp.org/

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