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Douche of the Week: The Congressman Who Thinks Congressmen are…Underpaid

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Updated: April 4, 2014

 

By RU Twisted

It’s difficult to expound upon that title. I mean, really, the headline says it all. Congressman Jim Moran (D-VA) actually believes that members of Congress are underpaid.

Though I’m tempted to just let his claim ride itself into the sunset and make all of you angry, it wouldn’t be very Rhino Den-ish of me to do anything less than offer a public scathing of this clearly deranged fellow. That is what we do best, after all.

While it is very tempting to go full-on libertarian mode and explain why we don’t need douchnozzles like this guy in power at all, I believe it is important to accept things as they are and work from there. The system we have is a reality and, for that reason, the responsible thing to do is to analyze what the good Congress-critter said within that framework.

First things first, Rep. Moran is retiring at the end of this term. So my guess is that, because he’s on his way out, he will speak what he truly feels. No need to impress the voters anymore, right Jimbo?

One of the things he wants to convey to the public after his, wait for it….twelve terms in Congress is that he and his fellow power hungry ruling class Representatives are, ahem, vastly underpaid.

“I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid…I understand that it’s widely felt that they underperform, but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world.”

See, you were all ready to get your panties in a bunch and be mad at this guy, but you can’t because he understands that people think Congress underperforms. So he’s totally in touch with your feelings, bro. No worries.

Holy f$#!&ing [email protected]$#! balls.

Does this catastrophic waste of taxpayer dollars honestly believe that he deserves more for what he does? Unfortunately, I believe that’s an affirmative, and therefore proof that Congress as an institution may very well be well beyond repair.

Let’s take a quick reality check. Congress members start out at $174,000—a wage that is approximately three and a half times more than the median household income in the United States. It’s also over six times more than the base pay for an Army Staff Sergeant and roughly ten times more than a Private. Congressional_Salary_raise

But hey, they’re doing really hard stuff and kicking ass at their job!

Well, no. Not at all.

Congress began 2014 with an illustrious 13% approval rating, which was a whole percentage point worse than the previous year at the same time. This genius wants a raise during a time when, for completely valid reasons, the American people are starting to realize that Congress does a whole lot of sucking and not much else.

But…but…their job is so demanding! Rep. Moran stated that, due to the horribly low pay they are receiving, some members of Congress have taken to sleeping in their offices during session or, gasp, living in super-duper small apartments!

The horror.

A couple of very salient points must be made. One, I think Rep. Moran desperately needs to visit an Army barracks and take a gander at the living conditions. Then, after feeling like he needs to take a shower, he needs to realize that those barracks are substantially better than many of the COBs and FOBs regularly occupied by those same soldiers…when following the orders of jackass Congressmen like him.

Two, there was a time in this country’s history when Congress was a part-time gig. I believe strongly in bringing that concept back to the forefront. It’s no coincidence that the longer they are in session, the more of your money they spend and the more complex laws they write.

Capitol_CashIt has become a self-fulfilling stupid circle. The more time Congress is active, the more pay they think they deserve. The more pay they get, the more they feel that they should be doing “something,” and that something inevitably leads to you and I losing freedom and being deeper in debt.

Serving in Congress used to be considered just that—service. They are not royalty; they are not lords; they are not entitled. They are supposed to serve the public. And the last time I checked, that ol’ Constitution thingy is supposed to limit what they can do to me—not the other way around.

No, Jimmy, you and your ilk do not deserve more pay. You have shown time and again that Congress’s desire to rule over its serfs only increases with pay, benefits, and more time on the job. The last thing any of you deserve is an increase in any one of those areas.

Point of fact, you need far less time in those seats and many fewer dollar bills flowing into your bank account. The people of this country do not benefit by having you collect a bigger paycheck, and history has proven that very thing. Yes, I am well aware of the arguments for paying higher salaries to representatives and they are utterly refuted by this thing I call “reality.”

Representative Moran, though Douche of the Week he most surely is, only points to an already existing problem. Congress is full of individuals with his line of thinking—that they are your betters and deserve to be paid accordingly. They can’t expect to live like commoners, after all.

So a warm thank you should go out to Rep. Moran for once again demonstrating just how out of touch Congress truly is and how bad they suck.

Pay raise? Not hardly. Pay cuts all around and a massive reduction in hours would be a fine place to start, though.

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32 Comments

  1. Nathan Glass

    April 4, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    I think this “man” is a shoe-in for douche of the year!

  2. leftoftheboom

    April 4, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    And the true irony is that over 50% of the House and Senate are Multi Millionaires.

    I guess he wants a life title as well?

  3. CIBANDEIBISALLYOUNEED

    April 4, 2014 at 10:14 pm

    What a D-bag. Another Demotard playing victim. how about we just fire the whole government and hire people that truly want to serve the people and abide by our beloved Constitution.

  4. CIBANDEIBISALLYOUNEED

    April 4, 2014 at 10:29 pm

    None of these jokers deserve a single penny if anything, they should be paid in lashings. Daily!
    And if they want extra I know too many people that’d be happy to provide.
    WOW $174,000. A year for being useless clown shoes. That do nothing but completely impale my Constitution on a daily basis. If anything they spit on our Flag and give us the finger on every issue. I don’t think the President should get paid at all either. If you truly in your heart want to help our nation, then you do not need a lavish lifestyle. I was a grunt making minimum wage in one of the worlds worst hotspots for a year. Why is it the military makes so less and these scum bags that hate America yet run it make tons of money even though they were already rich?

  5. Dave

    April 5, 2014 at 7:58 am

    …and they get that pay the rest of their lives. A bonus they voted for them selves. Hoorah?

  6. Whitey

    April 5, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    If this guy thinks he deserves a raise, he’s welcome to try to suck it out of every last one of our dicks.

  7. John

    April 7, 2014 at 7:34 am

    Look, I don’t think you realize just how hard it is to completely strip away the liberties and ambition of a group of people (The Americans) who basically invented liberty and ambition. The good Congressman has spent most of his life undermining our values, stomping out our small businesses, protecting his cronies, and paving the way for oligarchy. Do you think that doesn’t involve a high level of stress? On top of that he has to watch mere state governors like MF’n Corzine steal a Billion $ without so much as a slap on the wrist. Why shouldn’t Congressmen get a Billion $? Being a traitor to the American people and our way of life isn’t an easy job.

    • Mr. Twisted

      April 7, 2014 at 11:27 am

      Hahahahahahahaha.

      Yeah…

  8. JoeC

    April 7, 2014 at 8:10 am

    I really don’t think $174,000/year is unreasonable if they were doing the job well. But they aren’t. They suck at it. Compare their salary to corporate American and it isn’t that great. In 2011 the average CEO made almost $10 million per year. Corporate VPs are in the $150k-200k range. Many of our members of Congress come from that world and when they get to Congress they actually have to put in a lot more time. To them it seems like they are working a lot harder than they were before, and they are. They just can’t get anything done because they have to fight against 534 other people just like them. I guarantee you I wouldn’t take their job for any less money and I doubt very many people would and be happy about it. Now if we could just get them to accomplish something and earn that money instead of just drawing a check from the government like the people that put them there.

    • Jim

      April 7, 2014 at 1:28 pm

      Well, the compensation was INTENDED to offset the loss of income from being away their primary jobs. That was back when it was a part-time gig. Their hours are actually not very taxing, compared to VP/CEO or guys like us. They are NOT required to actually show up for debates of even votes. Also, their (bloated) staffs do most of the heavy lifting when it comes to researching and writing bills. I point to the statistic that nearly everyone of those who voted for Obamacare NEVER read the summary let alone the 1600 pages.

    • John

      April 7, 2014 at 2:07 pm

      Sorry JoeC, I completely disagree. Their base pay may suck, but they get a whole lot of special and incentive pay that more than makes up the difference between what they and their corporate counterparts (I don’t accept that premise either, but one argument at a time) get.

      Look at the career path of any average federal level politician. They are usually successful at something and low grade millionaires when they are first elected. Then after 4, 6, 8, or more years “serving the people” they somehow clock in with net worth’s in the many millions. Former Presidents can get paid $100,000 for one speech. Former congressman can rake in over $2 million a year working for the right lobbying firm once they get out. Not to mention sweetheart real estate deals while in office that net them millions of bucks. Of course there are great profits to be made writing books as well.

      It is true that most high level politicians work very hard. It is also true that there are 534 other people they have to fight against to get anything done. But we need to hold people personally accountable for their actions now more than ever. You can ask all Americans of all political persuasions and the only thing they will agree on is that Congress has been doing a horrible job for a long time.

      Read the book “This Town” by Mark Leibovich. It will make you get on your knees each night and pray that a tsunami wipes DC off the map and washes all those scumbags to the Mid-Atlantic Ridge.

      • JoeC

        April 7, 2014 at 2:52 pm

        So what exactly is it you disagree with? We are talking about their salaries compared to other members of society. Do you think a corporate VP or CEO doesn’t have perk above and beyond their salary?

        As for incentive pay, do you have some references you can cite to give us an idea of what they make there? They get travel allowances, staff allowances, etc., but that is part of their operating budget, not their salary. I’m sure a lot of them are getting money in less than legal ways, but we aren’t talking about that, we are talking about salary.

        For the record, I never said their salary sucked. I said it wasn’t out of line for the work they do.

        • John

          April 7, 2014 at 3:21 pm

          I don’t care about CEO perks because they can’t steal from me. In fact most CEO’s do a lot of good work that makes my life better/easier.

          When I said incentive pay, I meant the many ways they can make money on top of their salary. Most of those ways are perfectly legal. I even consider giving speeches and writing books honorable. Lobbying is not honorable, but it is legal once they leave office. Occasionally they get money from illegal backroom deals, but I think that is rare. I just think it is funny that most get into office as minor millionaires and leave office as multi-millionaires. Every penny they make in DC was stolen from an American in the heartland that actually produced it. The government produces nothing. It only transfers, destroys, and wastes.

          Can we just agree that DC should be wiped out by a tsunami?

          • CIBANDEIBISALLYOUNEED

            April 8, 2014 at 12:37 pm

            John, can you explain to this Grunt, just why our government sends billions of dollars to foreign cuntries. For example as of late I believe it was 4 billion to Ukraine for the crimea crap and not too long ago 7 billion to Iran to try to stop Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Also why did John Kerry dissolve the “Monroe Doctrine” which was supposed to keep us out of foreign affairs. Also I keep hearing Hillary is going to run for president, how is that possible with all of the lies she’s been caught in, time and again. I’m just concerned because I’m a father and I fear for my child’s future. Can you give me your thoughts?
            And are we ever going to get past this insane two party system?

          • John

            April 8, 2014 at 2:41 pm

            CIBANDEIBISALLYOUNEED,
            Brother, you might as well ask me why bad things happen to good people. I can’t believe Hillary was SOS much less a serious candidate for President. I also can’t believe that a mere 7 years after 9/11 our country elected a man named Barack Hussein Obama to the office of president. Can you imagine in 1948, 7 years after Pearl Harbor and a man named Yakamoto Hideyoshi getting elected president?

            I am an optimist though. All things cycle. The Tea Party gives me hope. Libertarianism is also getting more popular and that gives me hope too. I fear things are going to get worse before they get better, but I believe that America is still the best bet this world has and I believe that in 10 years we will have broken the chains of socialism and will back to our rip-roaring entrepreneurial free-wheeling wild-catting money-making selves again.

            We just have to remember that the Left never gives up. Once we free our country we will have to stomp on the Socialists every chance we get to make sure they never get up again.

  9. JoeC

    April 7, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    I guess you don’t know that there are limits on earned income for a sitting congressman? They can only earn 15% of their annual salary in outside income. That doesn’t cover investment income or profits from businesses they own, but if they are making good money on good investments or a business they own, who cares? I would still like to see a reference cited substantiating your claims of their change in wealth. The last report I saw said that just over half of Congress were even millionaires, never mind multi-millionaires or super rich. You would be surprised how common it is for someone to have a net worth of a million dollars.

    It is not unrealistic that they would gain wealth while in office if they manage their personal finances well. Let’s say we have a millionaire elected and he makes $175k/yr. If he lives on $75k/yr he will double his money in 10 years. If he is a good investor he can do a lot better than that.

    As I said before, I don’t begrudge them their salary. I would simply like to see us get more for our money. They need to work together to find solutions instead of working against each other to find problems.

    I would not choose to wipe out DC with a tsunami. There is too much history that would be lost. I would settle for a plaque.

    • Mike C

      April 8, 2014 at 8:13 am

      JoeC, can you please post for full disclosure what state you represent? It would really be helpful if we knew so that we could get a look at how you vote. Im guessing you were part of that Christmas eve backroom deal that rammed thru obongocare. Thanks.

      • JoeC

        April 8, 2014 at 8:19 am

        Not hardly. If the President’s tonsils caught fire I wouldn’t piss in his mouth to put it out. I’m from Oklahoma and I don’t like the current situation any more than you do. Just because I see the reality of the situation doesn’t mean I’m on his side. It just means that in the real world they are not paid an unreasonable sum. If they were doing their jobs you wouldn’t care how much they made and that’s the problem. They make that money and achieve nothing despite the long hours they put in both in DC and in their home district.

        • Mike C

          April 8, 2014 at 8:27 am

          JoeC, Very well. I retract my previous.

          If they were doing the job correctly, I could see it. As it stands they are some of the most corrupt individuals ever and truely deserve to be in prison.

          Semper Fi!
          Mike

    • John

      April 8, 2014 at 2:32 pm

      Citations smitations! Joe, If I can’t post a drunken rant on the internet free of citations, what’s the internet for? This isn’t college!

      I give you exhibit A: Harry Reid, a man of modest means who has become a multimillionaire after a life of public service.

      Also, for citation, see again Mark Leibovich’s book “This Town.” Chockablock full of citations.

      You are 100% correct on the Tsunami being a bad idea. I like your plague idea much better. Well played sir.

  10. CIBANDEIBISALLYOUNEED

    April 7, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    are you crazy?
    If you want to be a congressman, it should only be to serve the people. You shouldn’t want to be a politician so you can live like a king. In fact those idiots shouldn’t get paid a damn thing. Oh poor baby’s too many ceos and vps make much more than them. Who gives a shit. If they want more money than go be a corporate business fraud. Most of these jackalopes come from privileged families and have tons upon tons of money to begin with. Even if they were doing a good job they shouldn’t get paid as much as they do. If anything they should fear the people they serve, as an incentive. But they don’t fear us and that is exactly why they live like royalty and screw us out of our unalienable rights. They are supposed to be governed by us and our Beautiful Constitution. The Constitution is our Creed and our way of life. Give me Liberty or Give me Death. Read the Declaration of Independence and read the narrative about government corruption. I LOVE MY COUNTRY. I cry every time I hear the National Anthem. I heart is tugged anytime I see our Flag. I proudly wore it on my shoulder in some of the most dangerous cities of Iraq. No matter how F*cked up our so called government gets, I will still love our Flag. She is the symbol of liberty and hope. SO many proud Hero’s died in her service. God Bless Those who did.
    sorry guy’s, I get really emotional about my love for this Country, so I ramble a little.

  11. JoeC

    April 8, 2014 at 8:43 am

    What kind of people do you want running the country? If you take away the pay and benefits you basically make it impossible for anyone who is not “from privileged families and have tons upon tons of money to begin with” to hold the office because they can’t afford to live on nothing. On the other hand, if you reduce the pay to a living wage for the average person, what kind of people will you attract? Do you really want Billy Jim Bob that’s worked at the feed mill since he dropped out of 6th grade working in Washington making laws that govern our nation? That’s who you will get if none of the educated rich people you seem to hate so much don’t run because it isn’t worth their time. You are correct that it should be about the service, not the paycheck. But if you want people that will represent you well you will have to pay them.

    Have you ever gone to Washington to meet with your Congressmen? Give it a shot sometime. I meet with them frequently and it often consists of “meet me outside the cafeteria under Longworth at 12:20 and we’ll talk on the way to a vote”. I can’t speak for every state, but the guys we send from Oklahoma are on the go to meetings, votes, interviews, appearances and other business all the time. Prior to this year it was not uncommon for there to be a line of people at the door that just want to bitch about something. Thankfully, you are supposed to have an appointment to get past security now and much of that is gone. I don’t work for any of these guys and don’t want to, but I’ve visited them enough to see what their day is like and know that $175k/yr would be a bargain if they got things done the way they should.

    • John

      April 8, 2014 at 2:54 pm

      Joe,
      I think the problem here is that you are from Oklahoma and you enjoy politicians who are MUCH better than the average for the country.

      As far as the people I want in office, I like the Founder’s vision. A successful farmer, businessman, entrepreneur takes their turn in a political office for the good of his community/state/country and when his term is up he says, “This sucks and I’m going broke. I’m going back to business/farming/etc.” This would help discourage career politicians and I think that could do nothing but improve our government.

      We now have a man in the White House who has never held a real job in his entire life. That’s what paying politicians well has gotten us.

      • JoeC

        April 8, 2014 at 3:52 pm

        I will admit that we are spoiled with quality politicians that we send to Washington. However, we have a habit of keeping the bad ones at home doing stupid things with our state and local laws. If you could see inside the local and tribal politics here you would think DC works like a well oiled machine. However, I don’t think that our federal politicians are that much above average. There are some real pieces of trash on the hill and those are the ones we hear about on the news. You don’t hear about the ones that do good things. I think the majority of our U.S. Congressmen want to do good things and do their best to represent their people. I specifically say “represent their people” here instead of serve their country because they are not in DC to serve their country. They are there to represent their people. If you’ve got someone pushing an agenda in DC they are doing it on behalf of someone. The real question is are the doing it on behalf of the right people?

        I agree with the Founders’ Vision as well, but it just doesn’t work any more. I grew up in a farming community. I know lots of farmers and small business owners. If they took time off to go to Washington their farm or business would fail and they would be bankrupt. The days of the community banding together to help out when needed are over. If I left my job today to serve a term in DC I would not have a job when I got back, and jobs are hard to find. If you aren’t independently wealthy you have two problems with running for Congress. 1. You can’t afford to run. 2. You can’t afford to do the job unless it pays well. Contrary to the various emails floating around the web, you don’t get paid forever just for serving a term. You have to serve at least 5 years before you are eligible for a pension and then you have to be 62 years old to collect it. Not that good of a deal.

  12. C.Chapman

    April 8, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Hey guys/gals,
    Let us not forget this…. ALL members of the house and senate receive the BEST health care coverage money can buy…. While the rest of us get ACA coverage OR VA health care, which they wanna cut back on too….

  13. CIBANDEIBISALLYOUNEED

    April 8, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    The last thing we need is any more laws. We have laws, we don’t need more, we need less. Honestly i’d rather have billy bob the farmer running this country. Than some scum Marxist that rules with an iron fist. Obviously educated people are the ones who ran the country into the dirt. And the usual interpretation of educated is a pure fallacy. College it’s self promotes Marxist ideals and unpatriotic fantasies. Read the Declaration of Independence and see what it says about government. The last thing we need is more government, especially ran by the rich. I know plenty of good Veterans that ran for local office, but yet they always get crushed by the good ole boys. And yes I have met Congressmen and several other higher officials. You mention Oklahoma, dude lets get one thing clear. Oklahoma has patriotic political members, I agree with you on that. And yes not all states are Bad. But “JoeC” please realize where I’m coming from. I live in NY and our Governor might as well be Stalin. I’m a Constitutionalist above all. yet NY politics are sub-human. I get what you are saying and mean know offense to you. But politics up here is beyond FUBAR. I would rather let a raccoon take office, than our current governor.

    • John

      April 8, 2014 at 2:45 pm

      Right on! Terrorism is a real threat, but the greatest threat any of us face right now is our own government. If you can’t stand NY anymore come out West. We have more Constitutionally minded politicians and thanks to fracking, if you’ve got a pulse, you’ve got a job.

      • CIBANDEIBISALLYOUNEED

        April 8, 2014 at 3:58 pm

        John, I like your no bullshit approach to reality. It’s tough out here in NY, it seems the politicians here, forget that most of NY is rural. I live out in the woods close to a bunch of farmers and our rights are always being trampled. I have thought about moving, where out west are you talking about? I think we all know how the current president got elected. Out here they censor a lot of the radio stations, recently they shutdown one of the libertarian radio shows. They also took one of my fellow veterans from my unit off the air too. You might know him if you read the book “House to House” which he wrote about our experiences in the 2nd battle of Fallujah. Also our governor stigmatizes veterans by soliciting that we are all mentally ill. Any good veteran friendly communities you can recommend?

        • John

          April 9, 2014 at 7:15 am

          I live in Wyoming, where we are enjoying a very nice oil boom right now. Colorado would be enjoying one too, but they are scared of fracking. I’m sure you’ve heard of how well North Dakota is doing these days. Wyoming is not perfect, but one thing we do well is gun freedom. In fact, we are usually placed number 1 on most state gun freedom lists.

          I don’t know of any specific veteran friendly communities, but most folks out here are extremely supportive of military folks. It is strange because most people here absolutely hate the government, yet they love service members. This is the kind of place where a water purification specialist gets a parade thrown in his honor just for going to Afghanistan for 3 months of sitting on a FOB. I am in the Guard and I never wear my uniform outside of the drill hall because if I do nobody will let me buy my own lunch.

          It’s a shame you country New Yorkers have to put up with so much crap. I was stationed at Drum for a while and New York is a really beautiful state. Sadly, the screaming socialists in the City outvote you guys on every statewide vote and you get stuck with some very anti-American politicians. Colorado is starting to experience this. The state is full of good people, but the extreme leftists in Denver and Boulder outvote them in every statewide race.

          • CIBANDEIBISALLYOUNEED

            April 9, 2014 at 10:41 am

            Wyoming, wow that place is beautiful. Yeah I’ll look into that. I originally looked at Montana, but man it’s so expensive. Yeah it’s also funny with NY, if you’re out in the country here, you’d think you were in the south. The people are friendly and quick to help those in need. But the urban areas, you could be dying on the sidewalk and no one would care.

  14. Shawn

    April 8, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    I have said for the past 10 years that Congress would be more efficient and for the people if we fired all of them and started new. We could go to each district and pick up any “Joe or Jane” off the street with a job and a HS diploma to replace their respective representatives and they would do a better job.

    • John

      April 9, 2014 at 7:00 am

      I agree Shawn.

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