Army LTC Wants to Take Your Guns from You

Updated: December 10, 2013


BY RU Twisted

We do what we can here at The Rhino Den to shine light on both Veterans and Military personnel who are doing good things for America. After all, there isn’t a lot of media attention for those who answer the call.

One of the ways this becomes all the more credible is that we also point out when members of our Armed Forces, past and present, have done things that are not only wrong, but counter to what makes this country great. After all, we can’t just sing praises to the Veteran community all day, every day—there are some fantastically large douchebags in it that need pointing out from time to time.

Case in point, United States Army LTC Robert Bateman. Writing in Esquire magazine, Bateman explains to America how incredibly stupid we are, how wise he is, and manages to shart all over 200+ years of legal precedence while doing it. Impressive, to be sure.

Bateman begins his rant by recounting the story of some crazed college football fan who shot another football fan after a bowl game because she was not a real fan. Or something. The Lieutenant Colonel then proceeds to inform us that he is essentially an expert in killing because that’s what he does for a living. Death is his orchestra and he is the conductor, and he’s probably got a screenplay or twelve to further develop that idea.

Being a professional death dealer also makes one an expert on Constitutional law, apparently. Proving that it doesn’t take intelligence to make it to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel, Bateman educates us on how incredibly stupid the majority of the Supreme Court is because they clearly ignored the “Well Regulated Militia” portion of the Second Amendment. He specifically attacks Justice Scalia for his supposed “attempt to rewrite American history” and for failing to pay attention in high school.

He furthers his screed by giving us a lesson on this American history (which he is also an expert on) and the importance of the Militia Act of 1903. This act, as he condescendingly explains, gave us the National Guard; a fighting force that Justice Scalia doesn’t know exists, according to Bateman.

Of course his rant wouldn’t be complete without a plan. And boy oh boy does he have a plan.

In fact, it’s such a great plan that I will just address each point instead of what lead up to it. Though everything I mentioned above is on the level of world-class ignorance, I think the “plan” truly goes out of its way to show his douchebaggery. Feel free to click here to read each point, but it will only depress you more (don’t say I didn’t warn you).

1. Limiting the firearms people can own to muzzle loaders, double barrel shotguns, or bolt action rifles is as arbitrary as it is asinine. Bateman’s choice of what should be allowed ignores some pretty notable cases of humans taking the lives of other humans, most obvious being Charles Whitman in 1966.

2. Stating that “we will pry your guns from your cold, dead, fingers” is the same as saying you advocate for communism, fascism, or some form of statism. It’s that simple.

3. I’m not even sure that police departments auction off weapons taken in crimes anymore…ever. Does anyone know of auctions where this is happening? At any rate, even if it does, this is an absurd point that solves nothing.

bullet24. “We will submit a new tax on ammunition…400% of the cost of that type of ammunition.” Brilliant. Speaking of ignoring American history, remember what brought on that whole “revolution” thingy?

5. Initiating a buyback program using DoD funds to pay 200% of the value of firearms makes a lot of sense. That is, if we had a DoD that A) had the money to do that, B) wasn’t already making huge cuts to their budget, and C) we wanted to give a lot more power to so that we could live in a more militarized state.

6. All major gun manufacturers will be bought out by the United States. Well, clearly that makes sense. I mean, it’s worked well for General Motors, so…?

Seriously, this guy is literally dumber than a box of hair.

What gets me is the lack of honesty. Here’s the thing: if people want to get rid of guns and have a government that has way more power than it already does, great. Be straightforward about it and say “I loooooove me some fascism and communism!” State that you would like to repeal the Second Amendment (and, well, most of the others in the Bill of Rights), tell the common man that he’s stupid and doesn’t deserve to hold as high of a station in life as yourself, and move on with your campaign.

Speaking of campaigns, it’s pretty clear based on the article, that’s exactly what he’s doing. Is that legal under UCMJ to openly campaign for political office—especially one that so obviously counters the Bill of Rights?

LTC Bateman, thank you for your service. Thank you for swearing an oath as an officer of the United States Army. But part of that oath is to defend the Constitution—the document upon which you just opened your bowels. For that, your actions and words are disgraceful.

You have neglected your oath and, in the course of labeling others ignorant of American history, have demonstrated a supreme lack of both integrity and knowledge regarding the uniform you are wearing, the country it represents, and the laws upon which it stands. For that, you should be ashamed.

Furthermore, you are not just wrong, but egregiously so. Your clear lack of understanding regarding the Second Amendment and the ideals this country was founded upon are inexcusable for someone in your position. The United States Army has sadly demonstrated once again the level of foolishness that can slip through the cracks and advance in rank, as yours is not a defensible position, but rather an embarrassment to all those who take that oath seriously.

May God have mercy on your soul, LTC Bateman. We are all stupider from having seen a glimpse into your thoughts.


Opinions expressed are that of the author and do not necessarily reflect that of  The Rhino Den or its parent company, Ranger Up.  There is current legislation to extend human rights to chimpanzees, I find that odd.





  1. Rob K

    December 10, 2013 at 9:47 am

    Words can not express the outrage felt by Ltc. Bateman’s mindless word drool. Jeff Shaara in his fantastic book “Rise To Rebellion” he lists all of Bateman’s issues except he instead was referring to actions in Boston 238 years ago.
    I think the bigger question is how were his beliefs shaped. His beliefs are more of a liberal arts professor in some county college than a senior officer in the US Army. His words can easily be comprehended as a rogue officer operating in wholesale abandonment of the U.S Constitution, his primary “field manual”.
    He can talk that smack because in the cities or liberal bastions, his like minded fellow travelers will freely disarm in the name of preventing “gun violence” but once out of those urban paradises folks who use rifles for obtaining food and defending home will in no way shape or form disarm and will in most cases be a better shot than the Federale getting ready to kick in their door to defend an unConstitutional law.
    Bottom line is this guy is off his rocker and his words will be no comfort to anyone who loves the Constitution and the uniquely American way of life. May whoever he prays to have mercy on his soul…Lord knows we in the infantry won’t.

  2. STJ

    December 10, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Is he going to get a douche bag nomination? And as my latest favorite web picture says be careful prying that gun from my dead cold fingers the barrel is going to be a little hot.

  3. Mike

    December 10, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Lol. He really said it. I can’t believe it. “I orchestrate violence”. Lol.

  4. Mike

    December 10, 2013 at 9:51 am

    Can’t believe he said, “I orchestrate violence”. Lol.

  5. Mike Smith

    December 10, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Actually, the Robert Bateman that wrote this piece is not LTC Robert Bateman but some former NYC policeman who was a member of something called the NY Guard (from whence he’s claiming his title I guess). Have some issues with LTC Bateman on the military side, but this article isn’t his doing.

    • alan devincentis

      December 10, 2013 at 10:25 am

      You got that wrong. This is an active duty younger man. Not that older guy that was in the NY gUard.

      • JoeC

        December 10, 2013 at 10:49 am

        Is it the same guy that wrote the essay about vets visiting the Pentagon a while back?

    • JoeC

      December 10, 2013 at 10:39 am

      This was my suspicion and hope when I first read the article yesterday, but I didn’t have time to do any research on it.

      How is it that people make the connection between “well regulated militia” to National Guard? The National Guard was over 100 years away from existing when “well regulated militia” popped up in the BoR. There is no doubt the Guard would be considered a well regulated militia (at least in its original form, it is beyond that now), but that doesn’t mean well regulated militia is limited to the Guard.

      • NousDefions

        December 11, 2013 at 11:26 am

        In order to protect freedom, a militia must always be independent of the government.

        Any military force that must answer to the government is a force that may not be able to answer “no.”

        This argument that that the National Guard is the militia is the same argument that the Second Amendment was for hunting.

      • NousDefions

        December 11, 2013 at 11:27 am

        In order to protect freedom, a militia must always be independent of the government.

        Any military force that must answer to the government is a force that may not be able to answer “no.”

        This argument that the National Guard is the militia is the same argument they use to say the Second Amendment is for hunting.

    • Mr. Twisted

      December 10, 2013 at 11:43 am

      At the end of the Esquire article there is a disclaimer attached stating: “These opinions are those of the author and do not reflect the United States government, the United States Department of Defense, the United States Army, or any other official body.”

      That would lead me to believe that he is, in fact, a LTC in the United States Army. I have emailed him to try and confirm.

      • JoeC

        December 10, 2013 at 2:00 pm

        Or they put that there to keep anyone from taking a good look at who the author is because it wasn’t an official statement.

        • Mr. Twisted

          December 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm

          Possible, but I just checked out his Facebook page. There is definitely a Robert Bateman not only in ACUs and with LTC rank, but also pushing several Esquire articles.

          So we either have a Stolen Valor issue, or he really is a LTC (or was recently). If it is a Stolen Valor case, all the better; we can deal with that, too.

  6. Alan DeVincentis

    December 10, 2013 at 10:27 am

    btw, it seems he is admitting to not upholding his oath, meaning I believe he is derelict in his duties, and as such, guilty of a crime. ?

  7. Derek

    December 10, 2013 at 11:03 am

    Remember if the military doesn’t have anyplace to put an idiot then they promote them. This is probably the the case with this genius. Its scary that this is the mind set of so many Americans now days. It doesn’t make any sense. To answer your question about #3, gun dealers with a FFL can still purchase firearms at auctions (sometimes), but it isn’t easy.

  8. john Farrar

    December 10, 2013 at 11:10 am

    I worked as a community service officer for two years after my return as a infantry staff sgt. One of my duries as CSO was to destroy evidence that has piled up over the years. I took a box of guns to the village maintenance dept and had to take a torch and cut each gun into 3pieces. I cried, however thes weapons were misused in crimes and I knew it had to be done. So as far as auctions, LTC is fill of crap, as far as being a killer, he is definately full of crap. Most likely a POG that sat inside the wire while the real soldier dealt wiyh death and fighting. I know I had to throw a LTC behind cover after an ied blast in Iraq, idiot was just standing in the middle of the road… probably was this douche.

    • Don

      December 11, 2013 at 8:24 pm

      After a quick facebook search, and some confirmation through some articles, I can pretty much guarantee this guy is a POG. One of his FB pics is in ACUs, and wearing a helmet with no night vision base plate. That has always been one of the biggest clues to me someone doesn’t get outside the wire much or at all. “Orchestrates violence” my ass, he’s as much a maestro as the guy who cleans the floors after the show.

  9. Michael Z. Williamson

    December 10, 2013 at 11:22 am


    My daughter thinks he’s a pansy.

    She’s probably managed more violence than he, too.

    • Mr. Twisted

      December 10, 2013 at 11:50 am

      Great article, Michael.

    • Bushmaster Bill

      December 10, 2013 at 12:05 pm

      HAHA! Excellent article.

  10. Bushmaster Bill

    December 10, 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Whatever, you fucking POG douchebag. Come try and pry anything resembling freedom from my hands. I’ll rip your nuts off. This guy doesn’t want to see what kind of pent up, emotionally unstable rage Infantry vets have just waiting to be unleashed on some POG ass officer. Bring it, sissy.

  11. Brian

    December 10, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    When this article came out I was curious if the LTC’s opinion was just the only one, or were there other senior leaders as well. He’s not alone. The article “Thoughts on the US Military Used for Gun Control” is at http://sheepdogusa.wordpress.com/2013/12/08/thoughts-on-the-us-military-used-for-gun-control/. I’m sure there are others but this is what I found first on the article and issue.

  12. Larry

    December 10, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    I have to submit a theory that I, and a few others, have long believed. Once some officers are promoted to O-4, the government goes in and conducts a lobotomy, issues a good-idea fairy, and sends them on their way.

  13. Hatfield

    December 10, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    Some departments still auction off seized firearms, as there is at least one department in Florida that still does. most do not.

  14. Jonathan LaForce

    December 10, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    If you read the comments section on the original Esquire magazine post, Bateman does chime in a couple times, to insult retired officers with more valor devices than he could ever hope to attain.
    I refuse to call him by his rank. He does not deserve it, and I would not care to die in his company.

  15. rob

    December 10, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    I think the lt col forgets, that while he’s throwing out power point presentations and drinking coffee, his death dealers would be the ones to carry out such dumb fuckery. And I will follow no such orders. In fact, if anyone does it makes you a traitor.. Sorry if it butt hurts some folks but that’s just my humble opinion. I might just get “beat up” on such a mission and all my weapons and ammunition would be taken from me.

  16. Hotel1

    December 10, 2013 at 1:36 pm

    The more I read, the more I am convinced “Bob” is just trolling us.

  17. Just An Old Dog

    December 10, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    This guy has been a staff weenie since he was a 2nd Lt. Since is a West Point Grad its impossible to shitcan him, so he has been shuffled from one pogue billet to another, keeping him away from command. His MOS is FA59, which means all he does is help plan ops, when they let him. He’s a bitter cuckhold who has had problems with handling his drinking. His sole enjoyment in life is creating an imaginary world within his writing where he makes and enforces policy. A dickless wonder, he just needs to retire and stay in England. Its too bad those two crazy guys didnt behead him instead of the Royal Marine they killed.

  18. Rob

    December 10, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    I have been surprised by the number of senior officers who have expressed gun control opinions, does not compute for me, heck we are sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, I just don’t get the anti-gun positons.

  19. Buzz

    December 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    So..the UCMJ applies to officers, NCO’s and all ranks..From what I remember what he is writing and speaking is in direct violation of being actively involved in political issues. Does the “while not in uniform” phrase apply here? It’s surely “conduct unbecoming of an officer…etc.?”

  20. Shan68ok

    December 10, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    *sigh* I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Not all, or even most liberals are anti-2ND amendment. We are letting to much extremism in our political spectrum to have a stronger voice in our government. Liberal and conservative. Want a gun? Even assault type rifles? Sure, pass a national background check no matter where you purchase the gun. Should I be able to purchase a gun? Heck no! I suffer from severe depression and at times I’m suicidal. I’ve been hospitalized for my condition. No background pass for me! But should my brother who is not mentally ill, never been suspected of a crime, and could pass any background check with flying colors’s be able to buy any gun he’d like? Absolutely.

  21. J Gallagher

    December 10, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    I believe Abe Lincoln said that it is better to remain silent, and thought of a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

  22. Adam

    December 10, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    I have been in law enforcement for a few years in WV. Firearms in evidence that have been involved in a crime are destroyed once it has gone to court. I have never heard of any firearm being auctioned off. Vehicles maybe but never boomsticks. This guy is an idiot.


    December 10, 2013 at 8:57 pm

    There is no LTC Robert Bateman listed on AKO. Looking at the previous posts I think the assumption that “LTC” Robert Bateman is indeed affiliated with some militia organization and claimed the rank in that manner.

    Regardless of the fact, few people will take the time to do the research and in turn his existence is detrimental to the image the Army goes to great lengths to protect. With any luck he’ll simply crawl back under his rock and fade into oblivion. Odds are more in favor of karma catching up to him.

    I only regret that my name is not Karma.

  24. Bill the Shoe

    December 11, 2013 at 9:41 am

    Mr. Campbell–You might check again. Mr. Lilyea’s research at TAH indicates that Mr. Bateman is indeed an ACDU LTC.



  25. leftoftheboom

    December 11, 2013 at 10:38 am

    New York STATE Guard. Not military, all volunteer organization with no military authority. They wear the uniform, the rank, and support state emergencies.

    There is a discussion on which robert bateman is the one that did the article.

  26. Whitey

    December 11, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    This is my standard response for any and all such boasts by gun-grabbing fascist pricks:

    Are you gonna come knocking on my door to tell me that the politburo has decreed that I’m not allowed to be armed and you’re here to collect? If so, then MOLON LABE, motherfucker. Come get some.

    Are you gonna kick my door in because I might be “dangerous” to someone violating the Bill of Rights at my expense? I advise you to first decide whether you consider disarming me to be worth YOUR life. Otherwise as before, MOLON LABE, motherfucker. Come get some.

    Or are you one of those New Age heroes who likes to talk a big game about how “me and my kind” will be “dealt with,” but would then try to force some poor soldier or LEO to be their reluctant henchman when/if that time comes? If so, then shut your fucking cock holster, you coward.

    I could be wrong, but I get the impression that (master)Bateman the hardcore death-dealing modern Hussar or whatever the hell he wants to call himself probably falls into the third category. Treat him accordingly.

  27. Rob

    December 11, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    McChrystal vs. Bateman in full-contact kumite: set it up and I’ll buy a ticket. My money’s on McChrystal.

  28. John

    December 12, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    Ho Lee Fuk! The most depressing thing is that with statists like Chucky Hagel at the helm, this LTC will most likely be a 2 star general in charge of the first all live, all nude, all male, Gay Infantry Sexual Assault of Afghan Boys Division (A). I predict this unit will be activated on 1 May 2015.

  29. Eddie

    December 13, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    This guy, Bateman, is definitely a douchebag political appointment. An as*hole to spew such liberal trash. The same vitriol crap our kids are being indoctrinated with in America’s schools. Guess he forgot his other oath, “God and country”. I always liked my best, “God, country, Marine Corps!” Also, I’m sure its hacks like this weasel, in the Armed Forces, that are pushing to get rid of religion in the military. Why you ask? So one of them, an atheist or secularist, can eventually become an American Hugo Chavez…You don’t think so? If you don’t think so, then I guess you believe the current guy in the White House is the most pro-American president ever, huh? Liberals and their quest for a socialist utopia. America let’s keep vigil and call out these traitors for the corruptors that they are.
    Semper Fi – The Sarge

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